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It still allow in the UK to wear anything - no illegal, maybe depend on country, I was wear tights and denim mini skirt that seem to be allow in public Ive wearing many time as cops passing me without stop or ask anything
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In the US it's illegal to be dressed indecently, but not illegal to crossdress. Also, where would you draw the line? Some people might claim that all the boys wearing girls skinny jeans are crossdressing.
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is it legal to crossdress when outside as a female
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epilators have been suggested. I've just bought a Braun and done my first epilate session. So far so good, but still a long way from hair free legs (which are essential for any tights wearing!!!)
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With winter on the way I shall be cutting down on heating bills by wearing opaque tights with a wool kilt.
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Men should wear tights for any reason also protect from blood flow that quite important, I do wear all time, love it. I wear with skirt that nornmal clothes
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Why Do Some Females Think It's Okay?

posted Wednesday, 5 December 2007

Danielby Daniel

 

I am happy to publish a further article by Daniel, in which he discusses a question to which many of us can relate: the differing attitudes of women to men who wear tights / pantyhose.

This has been on my mind for some time now and I'm thought about it a lot and wonder what other peoples' thoughts are. I hope people find it a thought provoking article.

 

Why Do Some Females Think It's Okay, Whilst Others Don't?

I'm sure at some point many of you have asked this question. Be it when you first starting out adventuring and experimenting with tights or be it when you were used to wearing tights. What is it that makes some people interested or okay with it whilst others can't seem to fathom it. Is it because of an event when they were younger? Are they not very open minded? or is it to do with the oft-referred 'Nylon Gene'.

 

Ok, Here's A Scenario For You To Consider.

I have been wearing tights as a more regular item of clothing since about April time. Like many of the readers here, we quite possibly tried a pair of relatives tights on, be it our sisters or our mothers, some of us may even have tried a female friends tights on. It's in that event that something was triggered inside of us. The need for tights? The need for the feeling? The need for the adrenalin rush? So naturally you may consider buying your own pair at some point or trying a companions pair on again.

I had tried a relative's pair on a few times in secret and generally liked the feeling and the warmth they gave me. So several years later, I was joking around with my Girlfriend (whom I love to the Nth degree by the way) and jokingly said I'm cold but haven't got anything to keep me warm with except your tights. She dared me to do it, I did and as most girlfriends do, they laugh in a good way at first. Several times after that I tried them on again for her to see if I got the same reaction - it had deteriorated each time. To the point of, "Its me, or the tights!" so naturally I try and keep tights related conversations with her to the minimum.

Fast forward to December 2007. The Winter has arrived and brought a distinct chill with it also. Due to a crisis earlier in November, I had to get rid of my tights collection (which was annoying since I had just begun to get some more premium pairs e.g. Aristoc, Wolford, not to mention the 120 denier black opaques from New Look which are out of stock at my local branch at the moment) so I had no tights for the winter which was what I had in mind. I had to use long johns instead (yes, they keep you warm but boy are they cumbersome under jeans/chinos) I often think to myself "You can take the man away from the tights, but never the tights away from the man" which a lot of people here on Geraden's blog may be able to relate to. Due to the events of past I was unsure about spending a lot of money on a pair which may not last all that long in case they find out again. So I visited a branch of Primark and purchased some 80den Microfibre tights to wear in the colder weather.

I jokingly mentioned to a friend on my university course about wearing tights in the cold weather, she said that if I did it, could I show her to see "if they look better on you than on me lol" so naturally I obliged but didn't see her on my course that day but showed her over a MSN chat later that evening. She was 100% okay with it and has seen them today in the flesh and smiled and didn't even flicker when it occurred.

I kept asking myself, "Why Was This" she is not one for wearing tights at the best of times because she is uncomfortable in them, yet seemed okay with me wearing them to keep warm without asking the usual questions thus "Are You Gay, Crossdresser, Transvestite" etc (as to which I'm sure many of us have been there at some point) whereas my girlfriend ranges completely down the other end of the scale and isn't okay with it.

 

So What Does This Mean?

Is this another step closer to having tights recognised as a piece of everyday male clothing? Is she trying to block out negative thoughts? Is she trying to make me happy by appearing to be fine with it? On the plus side, it has given me more confidence to wear to university.

As many of you know through experience I'm guessing, if you act normal and don't draw attention to your legs than things will be better. Yes you will feel nervous the first few times but once you get into it and you are going about your day you will soon forget about it and begin to act more relaxed and normal.

Through events described above I am now also ok with buying tights, I use to be a bit shaky at the tills and use to think people were staring daggers at me whilst I look at the tights and feel how thick they were (I prefer thicker tights but am no way opposed to sheers, I think flesh coloured tights which tick the right boxes (material, look, denier, colour) are a valuable addition to any wardrobe!) to make sure that I got what I had in mind.

 

And I Leave You With This...

To people who are new to tights wearing: Don't be scared to go out and buy some for yourself, start with a cheap pair (some of Primark's opaques would be a great place to begin) just in case something goes wrong or you ladder them whilst your getting used to putting some on! The majority of checkout assistants wont think or say anything because to them its just another transaction. If you make a bit of conversation about the weather for example, they wont think about it all because they will be distracted. If you talk about the tights and who they are for, they may think up some pre-conceived notions which wouldn't be a good thing. But just act normal, relaxed and most people will act the same in return.

For more experienced people: What are you thoughts about different females (lovers, friends, wives, mothers, daughters, sisters etc) reactions and acceptance towards tights wearing today?

And to everybody: I hope this article has been thought provoking, contained information you can relate and may even give you some hints and tips for the future.


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1. BBB left...
Wednesday, 5 December 2007 10:24 pm

In my view women are threatened by mren, especially those close to them, who wear what they preceiev as female clothing. They may be Ok with the occaisional dressing up but feel uncomfortable with men wearing tights as everyday wear. Its a dilemma. I would not dare ask my wife to wear only skirts and dresses, indeed such behaviour is consdiered in the spectrum of domestic violence.


2. Acyclopath left...
Friday, 7 December 2007 6:15 pm

I think it's a classic case of the NIMBY syndrome. (Not in my backyard). My wife fully admits it. It is really unfortunate that a woman can wear any type of clothing, weather or not designed for men or women, and society is OK with it, but if a man wears something that is even hinted at as being feminine or designed primarily for women, it is not OK for most of society.


3. seracher left...
Sunday, 9 December 2007 8:02 am

Many, many words have been written about this subject over the years on internet.

I am Dutch and in Holland we have a wonderful forum for guys like us, called www.herenpanty.tk (Dutch for men's tights) The main object of this forum is to promote and support the general acceptance of male hosiery. What I read on many anglo/american foums as a sort of consensus that "we" are pathetic because we CAN NOT wear what we would like to. Of course this isn't true at all. As long as one doesn't violate any law, we actually CAN wear what we want.

When I go out in shorts and visably wear pantyhose or holdups, I'm not being arrested, nor starts anyone throwing things like rotten aggs towards me. The words at the top of this blog are very true: no one cares.

Nevertheless, social pressure can be very strong to walk in line with the mass. I have done that for about 3 decades, before I decided to get real. Told my wife two years ago, and my four sons know now since last October. Of course, just like most of us I got some restrictions, both from my wife and my kids. But from day one I made them perfectly clear that I wasn't asking for approval. I do consider their wishes though, and I will never provoce any situation deliberately to embarrass them. But at the same time I have to sail my own course in life and not theirs...

At times my wife was not very comfortable with it. Then I used to say she should be looking for something like a grey mouse to marry. Sorry, that's what you get out of more than 30 years of frustration, and I want to add that I love my wife with all my heart. We are still together and she is also learning to be genuine more and more.

The situation now is calm and understanding. This is just a part of me and they (wife and kids) know it. Just like a diamond, every person has a lot of different facets, and this is exactly why a diamond sparkles.

Again, it seems to me that most men who like wearing hosiery ask for approval or seek for confirmation that it's okay. Just DON"T! It IS okay, YOU are okay as you are. And btw, I never met a woman who asked ME if it was okay if she'd wear trousers or even a necktie.

My advice: be genuine, get real, sparkle as you are... If a relationship wrecks on a few grams of fabric, there must be a lot of other issues.

searcher


4. C.C.G. left...
Sunday, 9 December 2007 3:42 pm

I can not understand it either. I am a Tights (Pantyhose) wearer everyday, summer or Winter. My Wife has grown to accept it over time, although is a little uncomfortable with it at times if we are out and I am in Barley Bllack sheers for example and they are clearly visible. It took a long time to get over the initial objections and we did this by my re-assuring her that it was not a problem. I am not Gay, I do not want Men, and more over I do not want to hurt her. They are only Clothes. I love the feel and look of them on and with constant re assurance that I am still the same loving Husband she at last accepted it. They are after all only Clothes, for me the, You wear trouser and a sweat shirt argument never worked.

It was however different for me initially to allot of people. I suffered abuse as a Child and part of one aspect of being disciplined was being dressed in girls clothes for prolonged periods, This was in conjunction with Corporal Punishment. This was at home instigated by my Mother. It progressed into abuse a little later when a outside of the family things got worse. I came close to a breakdown when in later life i could not get beyond the abuse that I had suffered and put a major strain on my relationship to the point of splitting us up. When I was backed into a corner and forced to face my demons, my Wife began to understand and encouraged me to deal with issues one at a time, One was the guilty feelings of being punished in the first place, but secondly the fantastic feeling of wearing Tights. I have worn them ever since. What I am explaining here is that in my case honesty worked, tell the truth and tell them why you are who and what you are. In my experience trying to harbor a guilty secret that did not make sense to her did not work. I am still who I was, I love her with all my Heart, and i enjoy wearing beautiful soft sensual tight fitting Lingerie that Society says is just for Women. Society is wrong I am not !!!! Most objection in my opinion comes from ignorance, arrogance and fear of the unusual and is only overcome with honesty and genuine conversation with barrow loads of re-assurance from you. As for buying tights, just do it. No one cares. No one looks, and no one is bothered. It is my experience that we are far more scarred than anyone about a Guilty little secret that is not a guilty secret. I buy most of my tights from a Female Market stall holder, generally in 5's and there is never a problem. Remember this, before anyone can love you as you are, you have to accept yourself for who you are. Accept that and you have cracked it


5. searcher left...
Monday, 10 December 2007 4:04 am

self acceptance indeed is the key...

searcher


6. harisnya left...
Monday, 10 December 2007 11:10 pm :: http://www.e-mancipate.net

Nice article!

My answer might by a bit more simple (and even radical??). I believe we are still living in a very patriarchal society. Therefore males - in general - are sticking to their dominance/supremacy in many ways; part of that is masochism, or a kind of 'manhood' by the definition we use it ever since the fall of the Greeks (with the light exception of the Renaissance).

And because we don't have to write nice poems, sing them, or win at a joust to get the love of our sweetheart (and to prove our manhood to other males) anymore, but simply to work hard in a more urbanised world, we - men - left the colors and the fashion for the ladies, amongst a group of feelings/attributes considered to be 'girly', or feminine.

I believe that in a world where we don't write poems, sing them or fight at a joust, to preserve (and show up) manhood is even more critical - and choices are very limited. So men are very cautious about anything that might be 'suspicious', e.g. pantyhose for men.

What many women think is just a reflection of this male, patriarchal, masochistic ideology, or probably paradigm? cultural pattern?, in my opinion. As I experienced many times, they need affirmation from us, men, about this issue - if we say it's OK., they will likely to say it's OK.

It's a mental trick hidden here, indeed - it's not about acceptance at all (in the case of pantyhose at least). Ladies don't have to accept men wearing ph (pantyhose). For them there is nothing new in ph, they know pantyhose well, and they know by practical terms that it's as unisex as trousers. They need an affirmation from the male that it's OK for the male to wear. I would say, they have to see that the male dares to wear it... (They might not like it - how it looks, what others say etc. - but it's another issue again. Pantyhose IS unisex, and they know it.)

I believe that a woman sees a man who wants to do something that only he himself, part of this patriarchal-etc. society, can deal with. I believe that women might see their men struggling with it, and this might generate different reactions from them - on both sides (positive or negative).

So it's a question of interpretation, how we as men show it to a woman, how we tell, how we interpret. Any time I had doubts about myself and my nylon gene, and gave a weak start, I fell. And any time I was strong, straight-saying and self-confident, I made it a non-issue in a few days.

But, finally, the bad guys are us, the males, not the ladies. They just "suffer" from the consequences of our fears, I think. Mea culpa...


7. harisnya left...
Monday, 10 December 2007 11:18 pm :: http://www.e-mancipate.net

Ps. regards the title of the article: Why Do Some Females Think It's Okay? I think it's more like Why Do Some Females Think I am Okay? (And here you have an answer, too: there will be always other people who will think you aren't OK, regardless if you wear pantyhose or not.)


8. Karl left...
Tuesday, 11 December 2007 1:19 pm

Living in Switzerland, growing up in a macho family, and being a very regular men's tights wearer, it would be unthinkable for me to ask permission from my girlfriend if it was ok ! As long as I wear tights for warmth, I would not expect to have any problems. I have always worn as a matter of fact and would be scandalised if a woman would even dare forbid. Having said that, I only wear tights under my pants or at home...like any other underwear.I only wear colours like black, navy, brown and white, never tan. I don't wear tights in the summer. I know that it would then be considered a fetish. That is the real problem really. Al my friends (male or female) have seen me at some point or another in men's tights ( changing rooms at sports clubs, on ski holidays, staying with friends, changing in front of girlfriends etc....), in winter. Nobody has ever found it wierd. I realise that shorts and tan tights in the summer will raise questions though and wifes-girlfriends could be then be embarrassed. It then becomes a question of taking into account the other persons feelings. Why not agree to dress as one wants when alone in public in the summer and be a bit more sensitive to the other when accompanied.


9. roger left...
Tuesday, 22 January 2008 6:44 pm

my wife loves when i wear tights around the house and at work..she makes sure they are cleaned and ready to wear everyday..she don't wear them herself, but likes me wearing them..on halloween, she makes sure that part of my costume includes tights. she had a robinhood costume made for me last year, and all of our friends loved it ,too. they expressed on how the tights made it more realistic, the tunic was short and the green tights were very noticable on me.


10. g.r.m left...
Wednesday, 23 January 2008 3:39 pm

I think that the reason is so basic that most of us have overlooked the obvious. The fact of the matter is everybody, men and women alike, get tired of someone else bringing up the topic of their underwear! I know it seems a new and perhaps uncomfortable topic for most men but the person who you are talking to has been wearing them their whole life. How would you feel if someone kept bringing up the topic of thier Boxer shorts because they were uncomfortable wearing them! Who cares! Give them a break and quit brining it up. I speak from experience because my wife was uncomfortable with me at first but not for wearing them (because I wear tights for support) but because I kept seeking her approval, just wear them! Now I have absolutely no problem wearing black, matte 60 to 100 denier with my spandex running shorts just like everyone else is doing or tan, matte, sheer with my casual shorts in the summer time. Even my mother nags me if I don't wear them because she knows the pain I get in my knees if I get lazy and don't and I'm 48. Please, take my advice and wear hose like you wear your underwear, be discreet, don't wear shinney, high gloss bright colors because the average man doesn't wear that anyhow. My rule of thumb (and my wifes also) for buying tights or pantyhose is if you wouldn't wear a shirt looking like that, then why would you put it on your legs? And by the way the only way a sales clerk is going to look at you funny is if you do buy tights or pantyhose that wouldn't suit you, even women who buy shinney neon high gloss tights might get a raised eyebrow if the clerk doesn't think she will suite them but a man buying basic black or tan will never get a second glance, I know because I've been buying them for a couple of years now.


11. FGD left...
Saturday, 26 January 2008 8:34 am

Interesting site and comments in general...I do agree with Acyclopath.