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What is acceptance?

posted Wednesday, 18 October 2006

Geradenby Geraden

 

What are the criteria for determining whether men wearing tights (incl. pantyhose) is 'acceptable'? How do we tell?

Over on LAUF there has been a bit of a debate about this, and one post in particular hooked me.

The background to this one is that our friend and contributor Harisnya had what I thought was a good idea. He posted a topic in the on-line encyclopaedia, Wikipedia called Pantyhose for Men. Wisely he approached the topic not from the angle of why men wear tights (which could well be a controversial area) but on the indisputable fact that hosiery is now manufactured and marketed for men. Without my asking, Harisnya also very kindly included a link to this site, from which I am getting a lot of hits every day. Harisnya reported on LAUF what he had done.

Surprisingly this sparked a bit of a debate. Mike (Lycra_One), a senior member of LAUF, who can usually be relied on to make reasoned and common sense contributions to any discussion, commented, "Oh it's in Wikipedia now. Yay. And here I was looking for acceptance. If a site like Wikipedia endorses it then I suppose I can start wearing pantyhose without guilt. Whew. I was worried there for a minute."

When one or two people made surprised comments on the stance that Mike had taken, he came back with this:

… We don't NEED acceptance. We already have it. I've worn shorts and hose for over 10 years. It didn't require a billboard, newspaper article, encyclopedia reference, magazine ad, commercial, or the Good Year blimp. It only required guts.

And yeah it was scary at first. And yeah I wanted a billboard, or someone on the six o'clock news to say it was ok. But that wasn't going to happen. So I started wearing openly. In front of strangers, friends, family, and co-workers. The world didn't end. They ALL accepted me. That's right. Accepted.

Legwear as Unisex fashion is here. It's just up to us to realize it. Put it in the encyclopedias. Newspapers. Whatever. But that is not what is going to do it. I don't care how many articles there are saying it's 'ok.' there are those that won't like it and those that will.

All I am saying is that acceptance is here, for those of you that have the guts to embrace it.

What riled me however was this thinly veiled criticism of what we are doing here:

I guarantee if more men wore openly you wouldn't need the 'information' contained in any blog, article, or reference.

I for one do not like to be told that what I have been doing on this blog for the last 18 months is unnecessary!

However we all have our points of view, and often these are influenced by circumstances. Mike is a lucky man in one respect - he has married the love of his life, who also shares his love of hosiery. There is acceptance for him at the most immediate and intimate level! Beside this, I imagine that all else pales into insignificance.

But what is acceptance?

  1. Freedom from fear of arrest?
  2. Freedom from fear of violence?
  3. Freedom from fear of public ridicule?
  4. Freedom from fear of opposition or ridicule at home?

Those who live in the West, I guess, already have (a) and usually (b)  and (c) as well. I remember only one instance of a report on the Forums of a man being beaten up because he was wearing hosiery, and even then his demeanour rather than his legwear may have been the real issue. Such situations are mostly avoidable with little difficulty. So are the few situations where public ridicule is a possibility. 'Avoid groups of teenagers' is probably the best advice in that area.

What Mike obviously has in addition to this, and quite a few others have also, is (d) Freedom from fear of opposition or ridicule at home.

There are probably many of us like me, who would wear openly in pretty well any situation, public as well as private, were it not for opposition at home. This opposition manifests itself in a number of ways, from studiously ignoring the tights to lectures on the subject and to ridicule. Certainly there is no sharing of the joys of nylon, nor even any acknowledgement that such joys do, or can exist.

If people came and talked to my wife, they would soon know what acceptance, or rather the lack of it, is. Then maybe they would not be so keen to criticise as cowards those who seek advice, support and reassurance in the pages of this unnecessary blog, or in the postings on the LAUF Forum.


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1. Jamod left...
Wednesday, 18 October 2006 10:06 am

On your last paragraph; if your wife is anything like mine, they can blow hot on cold on their 'acceptance' of husbands wearing tights. Even though your doctor might have receommended wearing, if your find general comfort and warmth from wearing tights, even if you specifically buy men's brands, and if you demonstrate over time there is no ulterior motive, your wife can still exhibit disapproval on the turn of a dime.

I can openly put my tights on in front of my wife, buy tights from M&S, House of Fraser, Beatties, John Lewis, Bhs, MyTights, Tights Please and Tights4Men; when she asks if I like wearing a particular brand that I've tried for the first time, and when I dry my tights alongside hers - for no apparent reason, occasionally, she will turn on me and signal her dissapproval of my wearing tights.

So, you might think that wearing tights is a non-issue, but there's not one man breathing that knows the mind of a woman.

That's why blogs such as this are so invaluable.


2. Smoov left...
Wednesday, 18 October 2006 5:30 pm

Well, I agree with everything Mike said in the first quote, but speaking for myself, if it wasn't for LAUF originally, and Geraden's Blog specifically, I'd still be doing what a lot of men seem to be doing - sitting at home in tights waiting for 'Acceptance Day' to arrive. It's only because of the encouragement I've received from these sites that I have claimed acceptance for myself and I now have the freedom to go pretty much anywhere I want to in shorts and tights. I owe a great deal to these sites (and Geraden's Blog in particular).

There will never be a worldwide Acceptance Day as such - there will only be your own personal Acceptance Day, and you can have that now - you just have to claim it. I have claimed mine and I'm having a load of fun with it!

The other great thing about these sites is that we can share our victories and experiences with each other in a way we may not be able to with anyone else. That is a very valuable thing.

Have no doubt about it, these sites have been essential to the furtherance of the cause that is, I hope and believe, gathering more members every day, and I am very glad that they exist.


3. Geraden left...
Wednesday, 18 October 2006 7:02 pm

Smoov -

Thanks for your support. I really appreciate it when my readers tell me that I have helped them.

Jamod -

There is no accounting for women. I can go for days, weeks even, without anything being said or even so much as a raised eyebrow. Then suddenly I get the full treatment, calling into question my sexuality, my masculinity and my integrity. And then the other night she even caressed my legs in Charnos Sheer Lustre 24/7.

I could do with an explanation, or even better a whether forecast - by which I mean 'whether' it will be sunny or stormy around my legwear.

Geraden


4. Kaj left...
Thursday, 19 October 2006 9:48 am

Hi,

Of course this kind of sites are very important. I recall my own situation years ago when Internet was not yet invented. How I sat there in my nylons and wondered if I was the only man who loved to wear tights. When I for some 12 years ago got my first Internet contact suddenly a new world was revealed. There were thousands of men in same situation. I got a new horizon and a new point of departure. And now, thanks to Geraden’s blog and some other sites, forums etc. there are serious discussion of matters that touch us.

In the end we alone with our own problems and solutions: how to find acceptance and whether to wear tights publicly or not etc. But together, learning from other’s experiences and decisions we get new prospects to our own situation. Someone else has experienced and has gone through the same as you. One thing worth keeping in mind is that you yourself are often the biggest obstacle. If you surpass your own limitations and prejudices and show openly courage, people in our immediate surroundings will be convinced that you are serious. Then they also treat you, and your tights, with respect.

- - - - - - -

Openly or not, that’s the question. Although my deepest wish is to wear tights more or less openly in every situation, there are still many culturally determined things that speak against it. There are dress codes, related either to professional or leisure activities, official and unofficial occasions, that won’t allow you to dress up for example in shorts and tights. And also during your free time there are probably those who will feel uncomfortable in your company if you’re wearing tights. That is their problem, most likely based on their preconceived notions about men wearing ‘female garments’, but, at least, it is good to be aware of it. And sometimes you have show respect to ‘aunties’ limitations.


5. Jeff left...
Thursday, 19 October 2006 3:41 pm :: http://www.pantyhosenow.com

Is it about acceptance or is it about confidence?

Confidence in ones self. In the past I have been heckled by teenagers for being in cycling tights while on my bike. How stupid is that? This has not happened in years. I have now converted over to lighter women's and men's tights and pantyhose (much less expensive and fits better too) and I still do not get a negative reaction. I am also more confident in why I am wearing tights and pantyhose. I have also gone to Starbucks in sheer pantyhose and shorts without a challenge. As long as I look congruent on the outside to who I am on the inside - I think this is the key for me.

From the observers side. Confidence that the wearer is conveying a personal style choice and not something else. Most folks have every confidence that men that wear heavy spandex running or cycling tights in public are only wearing them because of the purpose they were designed for.

Jeff


6. Cedric left...
Saturday, 21 October 2006 8:17 am

Spandex tights are pretty much accepted as unisex wear - I have done light errands after a run wearing them and have never had a bad experience. Because people can tell I'm wearing them for the purpose they were designed for, especially when they see my running sneakers and sweatjacket as well, so it's not an issue. As for garments that are more obviously "tights", in the classical sense, well I would love to wear black sheers, but wouldn't because (b) and (c) are the fears I have. For me, it's the reverse: I've got (d), I can wear pantyhose openly at home with my wife and even my mom-in-law. They have no problems with it whatsoever. That's why I make sure that hose pretty much match my legs when I wear them openly in public, because though I'd love to be in black sheers, I don't think it's practical - yet, anyway.


7. Cedric left...
Saturday, 21 October 2006 8:22 am

About the blog thing, it's an invaluable service. The dude in question is getting carried away, it's like he's gone all macho over the issue of tights-wearing, which is unhealthy (as all machismo generally tends to be). I love your blog, Geraden, and I also am enjoying the LAUF forum, and these help less-than-intrepid men-in-tights know they are not alone.

As for women, they specialize in sending mixed messages. Women are like cats - you can love them but will never understand them. I feel lucky that my wife has never turned on me for wearing them. I think, in that respect, she's atypical of her gender.


8. Carly left...
Monday, 9 April 2007 8:16 pm

I think it is good that some men can openly wear pantyhose without fear of anything happening and also feel like they don't need to explain their actions... however there will always be a place for this and any blog or forum site for support for those of us (me) that need the support of the on-line crossdresser or pantyhose/tights wearing comunity.. and I hope this grows, this site as well as the population of wearers...


9. Deepak left...
Friday, 12 September 2008 11:10 am

acceptance is accepting yourself what you are .


10. Geraden left...
Friday, 12 September 2008 1:21 pm

Deepak

Accepting yourself as who you are is not the problem. Being accepted by those who are near and dear to you very often is.