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Do people notice?

posted Friday, 4 August 2006

by Geraden

In a recent comment, Cedric said, 'I find it hard to believe that people don't notice or that they don't "will" themselves to see the tights. I mean, sitting on buses, waiting in queues or at the bus stop/train station, people would notice, wouldn't they?' This is some material that I have been working on - it wil do as a response.  - Geraden

This business about noticing is relative. People in general see what they expect to see, except when they are paying particular attention to something: like we might pay particular attention to legs, to see whether they are hosed or not.

Oddly enough, men's legs are not something that most people are interested in.  In fact for most men, there is an inbuilt homophobia that causes them to disregard other men's personal appearance.

Be that as it may, the data that enters our senses needs to be processed and interpreted. This processing uses finite resources, so there is always an limit to what can be assimilated, whether you want to see it in terms of mental or neurological energy, or in terms of opportunity cost.

So we are selective about what we take in, out of all the raw sense data that we actually receive. There is an attention threshold and we consciously process only what passes that threshold. (We may subliminally process other stuff as well.)

What passes the threshold is what we are paying attention to, and anything else that departs from what we expect by a sufficient margin to clear the threshold (this derives ultimately from our primitive 'fight or flight' mechanism).

So the more different the sense data is from what is expected, the more likely it is to come to our notice. Having said that, studies have shown that even large deviations from the expected can fail to register. See here (word.doc) for some interesting examples.

Turning to the question of men's legs, except in cold weather, shorts are almost as much to be expected as long trousers, so shorts by themselves are unlikely to register. Then, provided the legs do not call attention to themselves by looking 'wrong' in some way, they are unlikely to register further.

So what constitutes 'calling attention to themselves'? That is the question!

Basically tights/ph have 3 visual qualities when they are worn: colour, texture (including pattern) and sheen (optical refractivity). The further any of these are from the expected bare skin appearance, the more likely the tights are to be noticed. The effect is cumulative.

Texture and pattern are the biggest giveaways! No one who wants to be unnoticed would wear fishnets, though fishnets that match your own skin tone are unnoticeable from more than 6 or 7 yards away. But avoid patterns and textures unless you are making a fashion statement.

A real worry in most wearer's minds is, I think, sheen. That is the one thing you have less control over. You can choose your colour carefully and make sure there is no obvious pattern or texture, but you can't choose the way that the nylon catches and disperses the light.

There are two really elements to this. One is perspective. Legs are, d'uh, round, not flat. Nylon goes round the legs, so whichever way a wearer is facing, nylon appears denser at the edges than at the part that is towards you. The lighter in colour the tights, the less colour there is to be dense at the edges; the more opaque, the less the skin will shine through from straight ahead. The effect is therefore particularly noticeable with dark sheers.

The second element is the way light catches the hosiery: refractivity in its true sense. The older 100% nylon tights were fairly matt.  It is the addition of lycra that makes hosiery shine. The cross-section of the filaments and the composition and structure of the yarn can make a huge difference to the sheen. Remember that when you see your own legs in tights, you are looking down on them, and the sheen will always be many times more noticeable than if you were looking straight at them or at a slight angle (as you would in the street). But by all means go for the more matt varieties.

Finally, we can get hung up about skin tone.  The truth is that there are as many skin tones as there are people, and they go from almost white to almost black (or at least  very dark brown.) So anything on the spectrum from off white through beige, tan and brown to nearly black is a credible skin tone.  'Yes, but is it my skin tone?', I hear you asking! I have come to the conclusion that it probably matters less than you think.

We wearers have developed techniques for detecting hose, such as comparing leg colour with arm and / or face colour. The average person in the street is unlikely to do this. I have worn dark brown hose so that my legs look as though they are some ethic minority colour. My arms are pale and freckled (typical red haired complexion). But so long as nobody spends the extra mental processing power in comparing my legs with my arms, the fact that my legs are the 'wrong' colour may not register. People have seen (bare) legs that colour – why look further? Of course darker tights are a giveaway if someone is paying attention, but ninety nine times out of a hundred they are not.

So the secret is not to let your tights-wearing cross their awareness threshold. Do not draw attention to yourself. Remember, effects are cumulative. So make sure the rest of your appearance is 'normal'. It will help if you wear socks. What you are wearing on your top should not be too heavy-looking for shorts. Short sleeves, no jacket  is best.

Your behaviour will register much more than your appearance (remember – fight or flight mechanism?). If you act normally and appear confident you will blend into the scenery. If you appear hesitant or nervous, look around frequently, or look down at your legs a lot, people will notice. And once they notice one thing, they will notice lots of other things – that rip in your shirt, the fact that your fingernails need cutting, your scuffed shoes, oh, and the fact you are wearing tights.

There is a lot you can do to reduce the visibility of your tights. But whatever you are wearing, unless it crosses a person's awareness threshold they will not notice that you are wearing.


People do not notice.
If they notice, they do not care.
If they care, they are too polite to say anything.


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1. Cedric left...
Saturday, 5 August 2006 10:37 am

Just thought of something: This being Britain, and Britain being cold for nine months out of every year, year after year, people would really expect shorts only in the summer.

Now then, if you wore tights with shorts in any season other than summer, people might notice. They'd say to themselves, "Jeez, aren't his legs cold, is he foolish?" That would cause them to notice your legs and then it would register that your legs would be a completely different color - a dead giveaway.

As I say, until it finally and hopefully becomes de rigueur for a man to dress in tights openly, I shall stick to my matt skin-type tights and only during the summer. I guess I haven't got that confidence. I do wear heavier, black compression tights under my jeans during the autumn, winter and spring months, but it doesn't matter because they're covered by what people expect me to be wearing.

Again, I'm not trying to dispute what you say, Geraden, but it does seem funny to be wearing shorts in the colder months - that would get noticed. Once you drew attention to your legs like that, the tights would get noticed. Just a case of putting 2+2 together.


2. Geraden left...
Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:05 am

Hi Cedric

Good point. I have seen men out and about wearing shorts for at least 6 months of the year. Some hardy souls wear them when it would be too cold for me, even with opaque tights for warmth. I wear them outdoors from about April to October. Indoors I wear them all the time.

You are right of course: if a man's shorts stand out because they look sufficiently odd for the weather at the time, then there is a good chance that the tights would be noticed too.

I am not one of those who have a problem with 'stealthy wearing' – I do it most of the time myself. Don't think that I am always in-your-face about wearing: I am not, and I think that more often than not it actually harms the cause.

Regards

Geraden


3. arcim2 left...
Saturday, 5 August 2006 3:29 pm

Hi

  • I am the person who read the "Animals in Translation" book and put the link to some of the book on LAUF forum...

I do a bit of studying of human behaviour and body language that is why i read the book...

Yes men can wear tights openly with no problems if they go about it the right way...

99.9% of people will not see of care that you are wearing tights...

If there is a slight downside of wearing tights is that they can make mens legs look too good...

I am a great Believer that men should not need a reason to wear tights...Wear them because they want to wear them..To be masculine and look and feel good... To me it was a step forward when Confilon started making ultrasheers for men..It gives all the right signals that...Yes it is ok to look and feel good without being sexual or a fetish...

This is it from me for now...

Please comment if you want me to comment more..

Arcim


4. Cedric left...
Saturday, 5 August 2006 4:13 pm

No probs, G: Just having dialogue, that's all. I have never suspected that you're "in-your-face" about it, I'm just simply admitting my anxieties and weaknesses and was curious as to how you'd respond to that. Feedback from you is invaluable, so that's why I seek it.

Rock on! - Cedric


5. Geraden left...
Saturday, 5 August 2006 6:42 pm

Hi Arcim

I had forgotten who posted the original link, but I was quite impressed by it. Thanks!

I have known of you for some time both on LAUF and as a member of your Delphi forum before it closed. (I have got that right, haven't I?) Yes, please feel free to comment further, or send me something that I could use as a guest entry! Always keen to see a variety of points of view!

Regards

Geraden


6. arcim left...
Saturday, 5 August 2006 10:06 pm

Hello Geraden

  • Yes it me....

I still want men to wear and enjoy tights/pantyhose...Also i like to support men who want to wear one-piece swimsuits with confidence....My swimsuit site is still running but not been updated for quite a while.. http://www.arcim.freeuk.com/

If people think wearing tights/pantyhose in public for the first is hard...They want to try a one-piece swimsuit for the first time.... The funny thing about this is that if you follow a few rules...No one takes any notice of you wearing a one-piece swimsuit...You can wear nude coloured tights but you cannot hide a swimsuit..

Very sorry about that...Back to tights...I feel lots can be gained by a litte bit of studying...Reading how humans tick and body language...Ever seen Derren Brown on the television...It is amazing what people do and do not see...All this can be a great help if you want to wear tights openly in public...

China..This is how they sell tights to men in China...They have no problems with men wearing womens tights...It is the same in Japan http://www.d oyeah.com/cgi-bin/shop/switch.cgi?job=item_view&item=0238

Take care

  • Arcim


7. Geraden left...
Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:38 pm

Hi Arcim

Thanks for getting back to me. I have edited your comment so that the links work. (The 'wiki help' tells you how to do things like this.)

I do have a Speedo zip-back OPS which I have worn on the beach. The additional warmth compared with men's trunks is welcome, particularly in the North Sea.

Oddly enough this was before I had done much tights wearing with shorts in public. I was with my wife and family and I got called a 'tranny' for my pains by some lads who walked by. Where did I go wrong, I wonder? Fortunately everyone other than myself seems to have thought that the lads were referring to a transistor radio!

I am sure the Chinese link is very informative if you know the language! I regret I am none the wiser! Not even sure whether the well-rounded legs on the main picture are male or female. (But then, it should not matter!)

I just noticed - the male model on that site has shaved his legs, but did he bother with his armpits? No! Tut Tut.

Regards

Geraden


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